rx__: wonders if there’s something wrong with agd5f’s computer agd5f: rx__: just doing some driver hacking 🙂 rx__: and having to restart the computer? must be a PITA 😉 airlied: rx__: you’ve obviously never done driver hacking 🙂 airlied: rx__: I think I’ve rebooted my laptop 30 times today.. rx__: oh i have rx__: not so much video drivers though rx__: but yes.. i’m very familiar with the kernel oops 🙂 MrCooper: it might be a good idea to run the IRC client on a different machine though 🙂 rx__: not everyone has a remote shell? MrCooper: graphics driver development is next to impossible without rx__: oh you mean a 2nd computer airlied: or 7… airlied: I just wish I had a machine with no GPU in it.. rx__: that’s no fun 😉 airlied: rx__: I just get annoyed that I have no “stable” machine 🙂 airlied: rx__: I’m always breaking all much machines constantly 🙂 agd5f: well, I had planned to go to bed, but I decided to test a few things first and I didn’t feel like booting up another box, that was hours ago 😉 rx__: haha MrCooper: any ideas why the log for that iBook problem didn’t have lines like ‘(II) RADEON(0): Using hsync ranges from config file’? MrCooper: I was actually looking for that before telling him to file a bug… agd5f: MrCooper: I suppose the randr code doesn’t say anything joss: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?p=21937 this really true? joss: ah the guy resporonding there as ati dev is not logged on, damn joss193: airlied: well i have not exactly maneged to fit that tv screen to that virtual area..i dunno how this could be possible? joss: hmm, airlied seems this onyly solution is to use those monitor next to each other and follow both, since diferent modes can not be cloned ? MrCooper: agd5f: I have a log file from 6.9.196 that has those lines though agd5f: MrCooper: weird krh: hi 🙂 agd5f: krh: corruption like bad LUT or graphics corruption? krh: agd5f: it looks like a bad LUT krh: and black and white seems ok, eg, the stipple with monochrome cursor looks fine krh: I can go monkey around with the code, I was just looking for a pointer to where this stuff is set up agd5f: krh: are you running dualhead? krh: agd5f: yes agd5f: I think I know the problem krh: cool krh: I can try out a fix agd5f: indeed, but I actually gotta run. I’ll ping you in an couple hours krh: agd5f: ok, no problem joss: agd5f: hi joss: agd5f: possible to use , radeon with monitor 1024×768 and tv 800×600? Xoipos: What exactly does the option MigrationHeuristic do? joss: Xoipos: you know how this relativeness can be ignored to trip, tv position, seems those –set things to not have any effect joss: ? Xoipos: Huh? joss: case here is that tv picture is displayed little incorrectly joss: Xoipos:well yeah some parts are missing out of the displayed area, for tv Xoipos: Again, huh? joss: Xoipos: monitor 1024×768 tv 800×600 should be mode cloned.. Xoipos: Really? Xoipos: I feel like I’m missing out on something. joss: but bottom parts of the picture that is there on monitor is missing on tv Xoipos: Hmm. joss: so the picture is send incorrectly little Xoipos: I can’t help with tv-out stuff, sorry. joss: ati has his own tools for trimming the tv position joss: but xrandr would trim the monitor picture as well, as it is marked relative to tv somehow joss: so if i do xrandr –output S-video 0x200 , some output will arrive to tv, what was missing before, but hehee, monitor will lose that same much MrCooper: Xoipos: it chooses different heuristics for EXA to decide how to migrate pixmaps between system and video memory Xoipos: I see. Thanks. Xoipos: Any mode in particular best, performance wise? Xoipos: bbl MrCooper: if one of them was always best, there wouldn’t need to be an option… MrCooper: the default is believed to be best in general _the_p: i have an ati mobility x300 graphics card and trying to set up tv out with the xf86-video-ati driver but i can’t get it working. _the_p: how do i set up this? is it possible to have one xserver with 2 xscreens one for the tv and one for the laptop monitor? joss: agd5f: you have a solution for this problem? joss: .192 drivers and r300 joss: forgat to mention Xoipos: You could always try upgrading to .198 agd5f: joss: yeah you can use tv-out like any other output, it’s just that we only support 800×600 at the moment agd5f: clone, dualhead, etc. joss: agd5f: aah so i can not use desktop monitor at 1024×768 and tv 800×600? agd5f: yes you can joss: agd5f: ok, the problem is that tv has some picture parts missing there agd5f: joss: how so? joss: bottom half in clone mode does not arrive to tv joss: i can not trim it also agd5f: tv will only show 800×600 of the larger 1024×768 desktop joss: yeah i think so joss: 224×168 is missing, so it has to be like that? joss: can’t i dislocate the picture on tv somehow, that monitor one would not be affected? joss: –set has some parameters, but they do not seem to work agd5f: yeah because it only support 800×600 at the moment. the tv-encoder can in theory scale any image, but the algorithm is rather complex and I haven’t implemented it reliably for anything else yet agd5f: joss: tv works just alike any other output. xrandr –output S-video –right-of VGA-0, etc. joss: hmm, yeah, but it wont display some parts of the image that way joss: if both are not 800×600 joss: 800×600 desktop usage is rather annoying agd5f: joss: you can you any mode you want on the VGA port agd5f: you can use joss: yeah because it only support 800×600 at the moment. the tv-encoder can in theory scale any image, but the algorithm is rather complex and I haven’t implemented it reliably for anything else yet agd5f: yeah since original drivers that do not work here newer ones..has it implemented agd5f: joss: ? joss: agd5f: yeah, but then the image on tv is not aligned correctly agd5f: aligned to what? joss: that i am trying to figure out, how to sqeeze that into the tv frame:) joss: it laps over the image agd5f: what does? joss: like some ports are around the corner joss: well the whole monitor image just wont fit to tv lets put it that way agd5f: joss: set up a dualhead with VGA and tv joss: agd5f: can you say how to do that? agd5f: then run fullscreen apps on the tv head agd5f: xrandr –output S-video –right-of VGA-0 joss: then run fullscreen apps on the tv head..ok how to do that? joss: the virtualparameter needs to be set again? agd5f: joss: depending on how big a desktop you want joss: 1024×768 agd5f: joss: drag the app over to the tv head and run it fullscreen agd5f: joss: tv only support 800×600. so dualhead would be 1024×768+800×600 joss: hmm, yeah that is quite annoying will, bre right back joss: ok so virtual parameter needs to be? joss: paste the whole lines if you can joss: virtual 2048 768? krh: agd5f: I’ve been playing around with the palette setup and it looks like the driver can’t set the palette for crtc 0 agd5f: krh: got a log? joss: agd5f: so i could not use it with different modes using –same-as yes? agd5f: joss: no. as I said, it only support 800×600 on the tv head at the moment krh: agd5f: yeah, let me upload it krh: agd5f: http://people.freedesktop.org/~krh/ati.log joss: agd5f: ok can you give me the correct lines of making that dual head? joss: agd5f: what is the biggest problem with other modes for tv-out? agd5f: joss: xrandr –output S-video –right-of VGA-0 joss: agd5f: yeah, but the virtual parameter could be right as well agd5f: joss: virtual 1824 768 joss: ok testing, can be set with –fb as well yes? agd5f: joss: no. gotta be set at server startup since buffers are statically allocated agd5f: joss: as I said the algorithm for calculating the clocks and modes for tv-out is really complex and kind of a PITA to implement. I just haven’t had the time to devote to it agd5f: krh: weird. LUTs should work fine on legacy radeons libv: legacy? agd5f: non-avivo libv: heh krh: agd5f: yeah, I just tried again and the luts are set krh: sorry about the false alarm agd5f: oh cool krh: but I found out that the PAL_SELECT macro is inverted krh: which afaict normally doesn’t make any difference joss: agd5f: btw. tv-out works only for mentioned release , i have not sniffed the sources much joss: agd5f: any reason , i have r300? agd5f: joss: tv out works fine here. pal was broken until recently joss: agd5f: hmm, i just took git before, perhaps this was cause because i did not git x11-drm agd5f: joss: all you need is xf86-video-ati joss: so kernel modules can be older, drm and radeon.. agd5f: joss: yeah. kernel stuff has nothing to do with the output handling joss: agd5f: then there is something worng with configuration, or was, anyways, fglrx new ones do not work at all here..just a blank monitor agd5f: joss: I’m not talkign about fglrx. this is for the open source ati/radeon driver joss: agd5f: yeah i know joss: agd5f: that is why i use open ones, that they at least, work, but i get slow rendering mostly..witg googleearth joss: and Xorg.0.log says render not supported on 9500 and newer, true? joss: pardon 9550 which is the model i have agd5f: joss: yes. you need a dri option to disable smooth lines agd5f: smoothline fallbacks that is joss: agd5f: ok what is that option? the_p: i have problems with tv-out, on some white areas on the display i get a black and white noise like a normal tv which is not set to a channel. the_p: and this depends only on the color if i move the window with a noising area the noise moves, too. joss: agd5f: can you pass me that option ? agd5f: joss: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-138498.html joss: – mesa-6.5.1-r300-smooth-line.patch: Added, fakes smooth lines with aliased joss: lines on R300+ cards, makes Google Earth tolerable agd5f: joss:
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