Rhamphoryncus: "oh sure, I'll just subscribe to the list, I'm sure it's not high volume..."
yangman: Rhamphoryncus: it comes and goes
Rhamphoryncus: Yeah. Somebody gets some strange idea about replying to all of the bugs and the rest of us suffer ;)
libvde: Rhamphoryncus: yes, we should stop doing bugs altogether :p
Rhamphoryncus: yeah, that'd be so much better!
libvde: honestly though, we should all go and do some bugs so that there's at least some chance of a release in the next month or so
joecool: just tried the quick_and_dirty_accel branch, radeonhd needs CP for textured video?
mmass0nnet: to compile the radeonhd HEAD on debian sid do I also need the gits of mesa, libdrm and drm?
yangman: to compile, no
mmass0nnet: mmh, but for 3D?
yangman: then, maybe
yangman: depending on the packages available
the-me: mmass0nnet, debian experimental has the latest mesa release candidates
mmass0nnet: thats good :)
the-me: but at all that's nothing which will be quite stable..
mmass0nnet: first I wanna see if it works
camji: I got this message for several resolutions: "(II) RADEONHD(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (width too large for virtual size)", so I can't use 1280x1024, does someone know an issue ? Thanks a lot :)
yangman: have you set your virtual size properly?
camji: I'm going to find some documentations about virtual size, to check and I will tell you :-) (Sorry it's the first time I use xorg and radeonhd)
camji: Thanks, I read :)
camji: yangman, hmm I'm really sorry, I don't find values I have to put in Virtual section :/
yangman: camji: are you having issues with trying to run multiple monitors, or are you not able to use the native resolution in a single-screen setup?
camji: I'm not able to use the native resolution in a single screen :)
camji: I've just compiled modular, radeonhd 1.2.1 (under NetBSD), I configured xorg.conf with xorgconfig
yangman: I'd suggest you at least use the latest radeonhd from git
camji: and if it can help, my card is a HD2400 Pro (AGP)
camji: yangman, hmm ok
camji: I'm going to try
camji: thanks :)
ndim: omg. Egbert had a busy day.
Rhamphoryncus: ndim: indeed
egbert: hi ndim: your script to keep the man page in sync with the ids is indeed time (if not life) saving :)
ndim: egbert: yes. but why do you insist on that "." in the middle of the list (instead of a semicolon)?
egbert: hrm, which line?
ndim: .B M76
ndim: -Mobility Radeon HD 2600;
ndim: +Mobility Radeon HD 2600
ndim: (Gemini ATI) Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT
egbert: ndim: right. i've overlooked that the same chipset is continued on the next line.
ndim: It starts with \t\t...
ndim: OK, so I get to apply the same fix again! :)
egbert: ndim: had i looked at the next line :(
wesw02: Hey guys
wesw02: I just purchased an new mother board and it has an onboard 3200HD video device
LeastAwesomeDude: Oh, cool.
LeastAwesomeDude: Um, let's see.
LeastAwesomeDude: Either driver works, 2D only, no acceleration.
wesw02: I was just wondering if there are plans to support this card
LeastAwesomeDude: Both drivers have support for that card planned.
wesw02: whats the either driver?
wesw02: (I'm a noob)
joecool: radeon or radeonhd
LeastAwesomeDude: wesw02: The two drivers for ATI cards are xf86-video-ati and xf86-video-radeonhd.
wesw02: i thought either was the name of a driver
wesw02: I tried to use the radeonhd but it said my card wasn't supported
LeastAwesomeDude: Yeah. radeon supports all Radeons, and radeonhd supports HD series Radeons.
wesw02: video-ati is the one I'm using now but it doesn't render video playback as well as it could
LeastAwesomeDude: wesw02: Yeah, that's because there's no acceleration yet.
airlied: wesw02: we don't have any hardware accel yet.
airlied: wesw02: its being worked on but it still a bit away.
LeastAwesomeDude: airlied: Yay! You're around. Would/could you spare a second to tell me why my bicubic filter is made of fail?
wesw02: :(, So I would probably be better off purchasing a cheap nvidia card for the time being
LeastAwesomeDude: wesw02: Well, nVidia cards would still be running w/o most fancy things.
LeastAwesomeDude: You'll need binary drivers for now, either way.
LeastAwesomeDude: fglrx is fine, go check out #ati for more info.
joecool: wesw02: probably not.. a cheap ati card will outperform it
joecool: the open drivers are much better right now... especially in the 2d department
wesw02: okay, do you have any recommendations
LeastAwesomeDude: wesw02: I recommend you go use fglrx for the next few months. :3
joecool: yeah but fglrx has broken xvideo... sucks for watching movies
wesw02: I tried it, but there is still video tearing
joecool: ^^ ding ding ding
wesw02: all I really want is a card that won't have tearing when watching videos
joecool: you'll get it much worse with nvidia right now... the open drivers are much improved right now, but still not fixed
joecool: wesw02: which is the problem i'm having right now... they are actively trying to solve it
wesw02: joecool, so are you just dealing with the bad video ?
joecool: no, i'm trying to fix it or workaround it for now
joecool: it's better now with the open drivers, but its still not perfect
wesw02: so are we talking a few months, or closer to a year
wesw02: I'm not ungrateful at all, I'm just wondering if I should do some research and pick up a card that works better with the current support
LeastAwesomeDude: wesw02: Well, I wish I could give you concrete dates.
LeastAwesomeDude: ATI/AMD is a bit slow with the docs we need.
wesw02: no I completely understand how that goes, I'm a developer myself, I'm just curious how far off you are
LeastAwesomeDude: Well, let's see.
LeastAwesomeDude: r6xx DRM is theoretically done.
LeastAwesomeDude: Everything else is not done.
joecool: wesw02: we may be talking a matter of days... 4 days ago alex pushed a commit to attempt to fix tearing for good
wesw02: leastawesomedude, thanks for the info
wesw02: is there an svn
wesw02: or a different repository
wesw02: I'll grab the code and give it a shot
LeastAwesomeDude: wesw02: DRM doesn't do anything without DRI.
wesw02: oh :(
ZitZ: hi, i was reading up on the drivers, and was confused, so i was wondering if the radeonhd driver supports 3d for the rv353 chipset
ZitZ: a sapphire ati agp 4x/8x x1650 pro
MostAwesomeDude: ZitZ: Both radeon and radeonhd support 3D for that chipset, yes.
ZitZ: excuse me rv535 chipset
MostAwesomeDude: Although that's an RV535 -- exactly.
MostAwesomeDude: But yes.
MostAwesomeDude: There is a caveat; you'll need Mesa 7.1, which requires just a bit of hoop-jumping.
ZitZ: so, when i run glxgears, i'll get the same framerate as i would with the fglrx driver
MostAwesomeDude: ZitZ: Gears Is Not A Benchmark. :3
MostAwesomeDude: But you can play quite a few games, check out this:
MostAwesomeDude: You want the R500 column.
ZitZ: that is the kind of information i was looking for, i was getting confused wondering if r500 was the same as rv500
MostAwesomeDude: R500 encompasses the RV515 and its relatives (RV530, RV535) and the R520 and its relatives (R540)
MostAwesomeDude: Basically, r5xx.
ZitZ: wow, this is great, so basically, all i have to do is probably pull mesa from git and i'll be good to go
MostAwesomeDude: ZitZ: Oh, you're already on Mesa from git?
ZitZ: no, not at the moment
MostAwesomeDude: Ah. Like I said, there's a few hoops.
ZitZ: i use straight debian sid
MostAwesomeDude: Ah. Well, just using Mesa from git SHOULD work.
ZitZ: will i have to upgrade X
MostAwesomeDude: Are you already on 1.4.2?
ZitZ: yes i am
MostAwesomeDude: Awesome. No, you shouldn't have to upgrade X, although I can't guarantee AIGLX will work.
ZitZ: i think i'll try building everything like the way the X wiki suggests
Nille02: mh is the radeon mobility HD2600 a R500 chip ?
MostAwesomeDude: Nille02: No, it's an R600.
MostAwesomeDude: HD -> R600.
Nille02: thank you
MostAwesomeDude: No problem.