evil_core: hi all
evil_core: is radeonhd still developed and works with KMS/Gallium?
chithead: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-radeonhd/ http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Afeature
evil_core: I saw git log, but in #radeon I heard many times radeohd is dead and deprecated
chithead: radeonhd certainly receives less developer attention now
evil_core: I got T60p with r500
evil_core: but what advantages radeonhd got over radeon driver?
evil_core: and why its still developed and not merged?
zhick: evil_core: the reason is a mixture of technical differnces and developer-egos i think :>
zhick: the radeonhd-devs prefer directly banging on the registers over using atombios, which is what the radeon-devs do
zhick: also the devs really don't seem to get along so well
evil_core: it doesnt support KMS, was thnking that KMS detction means support of it
evil_core: but siupports it powerplay?
evil_core: Zajec/agd5f told me that radeonhd devs get first powerplay for r500
evil_core: before them
evil_core: I prefer UMS, because more games run under it
evil_core: but UMS lacks dynpm2
evil_core: radeonhd doesnt need firmware?
zhick: evil_core: which games are running with ums which are not working with kms? afaik kms supports more extensions, so it should be the other way around afaik
evil_core: Zeneck Glide wraqpper fails under KMS
evil_core: Most games I play uses it under wine :P
evil_core: nfshp2 also fails under KMS
evil_core: quake3/openarena is nearly slideshow under KMS on mine r500 in UXGA mode
evil_core: UXGA res makes huge difference generaqlly
evil_core: and recently cs16, cs:souirce, portal, anythiung half-life based stopped working under both UMS and KMS
evil_core: in #radeon they told me that wine is broken aqnd designed for nvidia, and in #winehq devs told me that radeon free drivers is broken
chithead: wine is developed using nvidia hardware, because that is what gave you working 3d back then
chithead: so they tailored it to proprietary nvidia drivers
evil_core: I know, I used nvidia under linux ~7 years
evil_core: and wine, and in holidays switched to T60p and wine sucks
evil_core: now*
udovdh: any mesa people around here?
udovdh: got an llvm issue
udovdh: when building mesa for r600
udovdh: /usr/include/llvm/Support/DataTypes.h:51:3: error: #error "Must #define __STDC_CONSTANT_MACROS before " "#including Support/DataTypes.h"
udovdh: In file included from /usr/include/llvm-c/Core.h:36,
udovdh: http://pastebin.com/s8F5Kgd6
udovdh: and I disabled gallium (!) at config time
evil_core: 328.250] (II) RADEONHD(0): Using 16 MB GART aperture
evil_core: [ 328.250] (II) RADEONHD(0): Using 2 MB for the ring buffer
evil_core: [ 328.250] (II) RADEONHD(0): Using 2 MB for vertex/indirect buffers
evil_core: [ 328.250] (II) RADEONHD(0): Using 12 MB for GART textures
evil_core: Csan I get ghigher values?
evil_core: and doest radeonhd supports ColorTiling/AccelDFS?
adamk: evil_core: The memory limitations are due to the lack of KMS support.
adamk: It supports AccelDFS, I'm sure. Not sure about ColorTiling.
evil_core: but I a using UMS
evil_core: and got 256MB in radeon driver
evil_core: and 1GB in kernel module as GART
adamk: Right.
adamk: As I said, the memory limitations are due to the lack of KMS.
adamk: UMS has very limited support for large video memory amounts.
adamk: If you used radeon with UMS you'd see the same thing.
evil_core: but not 16/2MB :P
evil_core: I am using radeon with UMS currently and xf86-video-ati is limited to 256MB in UMS