Nightwulf|work: hi all
Nille02: moin noci bist du da ?
Obscene_CNN: I think I found a bug with the lowpower stuff. If you enable it in xorg.conf then start x, then exit x, then disable it in xorg.conf, and finally start x again It remains in lowpower mode
Obscene_CNN: only a reboot will clear it so you can run at full speed again
yangman: Obscene_CNN: yeah, that seems right. there's been no clock setting code at all before that, so the driver doesn't explciitly set the default clock
pgib: great work on radeonhd driver so far everyone
pgib: anyone alive today?
Obscene_CNN: a few of us
pgib: I just tried 1.2.5, and I added mesa-drm stuff from GIT into my kernel
pgib: Out of curiosity: OpenGL is still not supported right?
Obscene_CNN: not completely yet
Obscene_CNN: and what is supported is a little raw at the moment
Obscene_CNN: I haven't tried it yet
pgib: OK, that is what I figured. Hence why OpenGL-compositing fails in KDE4 (and why forcing it causes some partially rendered windows)
pgib: Thanks for the help, I will continue using radeonhd though, hopefully development keeps progressing
Obscene_CNN: Your welcome
pgib: EXA and RandR work - this is more important ;-)
KjetilK: I'm going to buy some new hardware for my desktop, and I'd like to achieve sainthood, so I'm looking for the best graphics card to run free drivers. My needs are pretty basic, a bit of video editing now and then, I may get a HD cam soon, and we're looking into some OpenGL stuff at work that I may want to run at home
KjetilK: with the docs released by AMD recently, and the great work done by you folks, it looks like I may want to get a ATI card, but I was wondering what you guys would recommend?
MarcOChapeau: KjetilK: well, depends on what you intend to do with it I guess
KjetilK: MarcOChapeau: it is mostly just a workstation for everyday work, hacking a bit and stuff, very little graphics intensive
pgib: I'm a new radeon user (not Linux though). The radeonhd driver works fine for regular X11 stuff as it stands (r6xx)
KjetilK: I almost never play games (to avoid any possible addictions), but I'm likely to do a bit of video editing
pgib: but it looks like good 3d support is a whiles off, but, it seems like radeonhd is seeing some rapid development
MarcOChapeau: KjetilK: then all you need is good 2D support, and I'd say that is already working quite well
MarcOChapeau: although, some bugs remain, there's really nothing bad
KjetilK: I've done a bit of standard resolution stuff allready on my laptop, and hope to get a HD camera soon
KjetilK: I'm going to run two 22" screens on it, does that cause any special requirements?
MarcOChapeau: My point of view on this is that the guys working on those drivers have spent quite a few years reverse engineering stuff, and they still were able to produce some working drivers. So now that they have the docs... :)
MarcOChapeau: KjetilK: I haven't tried multi screen yet
MarcOChapeau: but I think I heard it works...
KjetilK: yup, besides, AMD deserves credit for doing it, so I feel it is important to reward those who do by buying their stuff
MarcOChapeau: KjetilK: agreed
MarcOChapeau: KjetilK: although I wonder if we should thank AMD for being smart or Intel for starting a war on this :)
MarcOChapeau: would AMD be releasing their stuff if intel had stayed idle ?
KjetilK: perhaps not
yangman: KjetilK: should work just fine
KjetilK: yangman: sounds good!
KjetilK: more concretely, I'm considering this card: http://no.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=2&l2=8&l3=848&l4=0&model=2655&modelmenu=2
KjetilK: a 4830 GPU, but in the low end of it and not too expensive, does that look OK?
wirry: hmm...i would consider buying a 4770
wirry: but dunno if its much more expensive then the 4830...performance is almost the same
KjetilK: oh, another thing: That card says it can drive up to 2560 x 1600, while the two screens I'm buying each have 1680 x 1050
KjetilK: wirry: I'll check it out
KjetilK: is that 2560 x 1600 per DVI port? I think I run 2560 x 1080 on my 8 year old MGA 450G right now...
wirry: should be
wirry: so it should support to screens at 2560*1600
KjetilK: Yeah, that sounds reasonable
KjetilK: wirry: looks like the price for a 4770 is about the same is 4830, but they get into the stores around 10th of May...
KjetilK: I'm OK with waiting a bit, though
wirry: same performance, same price, but should be cooler
KjetilK: sounds good, I like my components to consume less energy
KjetilK: are there any issues with respect to driver compatibility with a card that new?
adamk: There is only very very basic 3D acceleration.
wirry: well...im not into that, but there should be no diffrence from 4770 to 4830
adamk: As in the development code base developed by AMD was dumped into a public source repo last week.
KjetilK: cool, and 4770, I just realised, was launched two days ago :-)
KjetilK: plans to run Debian Lenny on this box, but stay uptodate with the graphics drivers and kernel if necessary
KjetilK: sounds good: "Significantly outperforms Radeon HD 4830 and GeForce 9800 GT;" from http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/radeon-hd4770_17.html
KjetilK: so, yeah, sounds like I want this card
rehabdoll: has anyone come across a passively cooled 4770 ?
Obscene_CNN: mashes a greenpeace member's face aginst his 4770's heat sink
Obscene_CNN: Actually I don't own a 4770 :(