Zayec: Could someone check if I should post any other informaction to bug http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18016 ? It's about disabling PANEL
lbt: hi - I'm looking at buying a motherboard with ATI Radeon 2100-based graphics - is this in scope for radeonhd (I can use an external card for a while but I'm not using a closed driver)
Griffon26: egbert_: I'm sorry to say that my problem (MC not idle) doesn't seem to be solved in the latest version from git. Do I need to install updates to anything else beside xf86-video-radeonhd?
lbt: hi - I'm looking at buying a motherboard with ATI Radeon 2100-based graphics - is this in scope for radeonhd (I can use an external card for a while but I'm not using a closed driver)
dthsqd: Hello
esthar: So I have a Radeon X1900 and I want to know if radeon or radeonhd will work better with my card. I would like to have video playback acceleration and OpenGL/3-D support. Can I use projectm visualiser and 3-D games like Nexuiz or QUake 3 better in radeon or radeonhd?
MostAwesomeDude: esthar: Both drivers use the same 3D driver.
MostAwesomeDude: Additionally, the Xv code in both drivers is near-identical.
esthar: Interesting.
MostAwesomeDude: I recommend radeon, but either one will work.
esthar: So...what dictates which driver will work better?
MostAwesomeDude: Nothing.
esthar: ...okay
esthar: On another note, why haven'tthe R600 3D docs been released yet?
MostAwesomeDude: esthar: Well, because they're currently in review.
dthsqd: Hello
dthsqd: radeonhd is crashing when I open firefox/thunderbird. I want to see more error output in Xorg.0.log.
MostAwesomeDude: dthsqd: How so?>
dthsqd: I get 'xf86SigHandler' at the end of Xorg.0.log when firefox causes X to crash
dthsqd: Its not very descriptive. I decided to build xf86-video-radeonhd with debug
dthsqd: and will reproduce to see if I get more stuff in Xorg.0.log
dthsqd: Its probably pango...
MostAwesomeDude: dthsqd: A problem in an app should *never* be able to take down X.
dthsqd: oh
MostAwesomeDude: Was there a backtrace in the log?
MostAwesomeDude: It could be useful to file a bug.
dthsqd: ok
dthsqd: Going to rebuild first, log off, switch to radeonhd and reproduce bug
dthsqd: The big problem is that if I even switch back to VT 7
dthsqd: It will freeze my keyboard
dthsqd: and Ctrl+Alt+F1 won't take me back to the terminal
dthsqd: so I end up restarting using Magic SysRQ
dthsqd: Oh yea, I also do xranda
dthsqd: *xrandr, the main reason why I dislike fglrx
Determined1: anyone here
Determined1: hello ????????
Determined1: peoples????????????????????
MAD|munchies: Chill a bit.
MAD|munchies: What's up?
Determined1: Hi there.
Determined1: I bought a nice lenovo t500.
Determined1: I've been working on getting the mobility 3650 working with it.
Determined1: What's up with you?
MAD|munchies: r300 occlusion queries. Also I'm makin' pizza.
Determined1: Those are both noble pursuits good fellow.
Determined1: I couldn't help but notice that it's pretty hard to get one of these drivers working.
MAD|munchies: Not really. Just set your driver to "radeon" or "radeonhd".
Determined1: how do you do that?
Determined1: I'm using suse 11.
Determined1: sax2 -r -m driver=radeon
Determined1: like that?
Determined1: k how do you do it? or where can I find instructions that would tell me?
spyder: Section "Device" Identifier "radeon" Driver "radeonhd"
spyder: EndSection
spyder: in your xorg.conf
Determined1: won't the xorg.conf file just be re-written whenever you reboot?
spyder: not mine
spyder: don't know what your setup is like
Determined1: what are you runninf
Determined1: running
spyder: distro?
Determined1: yeah
spyder: debian and slackware
Determined1: I see.
Determined1: any other way to change the driver other than by editting xorg.conf?
spyder: it's how i do it
spyder: someone else might know something else
Determined1: hmm.. one other question. when you download a new driver in a tar file, you need certain packages installed to install the driver. what packages? (or where can I find out)
Determined1: I know the xorg packages
spyder: each driver has their own dependencies, you'd need to check the pages for each project to determine which ones
Determined1: radeonhd's wiki page doesn't give you a good list
dthsqd: hi
Determined1: hi dthsqd
dthsqd: how would start debugging radeonhd?
dthsqd: so that verbose output goes to Xorg.0.log
dthsqd: ah xserver crashed again
dthsqd: did anyone answer my question before my xserver crashed and I had to reboot
dthsqd: 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x85) [0x80d3523]
dthsqd: caused by a segmentation fault
dthsqd: But I'd like to get a full backtrace in Xorg.0.log
dthsqd: when my screen changes too much or when I open firefox/thunderbird it crashes
dthsqd: It is not reproducable with 1.2.1
yangman: dthsqd: X should dump any stack traces to Xorg.0.log. are you not seeing it?
dthsqd: nope
dthsqd: could strange gcc flags screw up backtraces?
dthsqd: Like -fomit-frame-pointer
yangman: not sure
yangman: you can always try launching X server via an ssh session, and look at it running that way
dthsqd: I will restart X in a bit
dthsqd: well I just get a single line in the backtrace...
dthsqd: 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x85) [0x80d3523]
airlied: anything in dmesg?
dthsqd: no
dthsqd: fglrx wasn't loaded either
dthsqd: I removed the fglrx.ko file, and restarted
yangman: dthsqd: how are you "building radeonhd with debug", btw?
dthsqd: turning on asserts
dthsqd: the radeonhd source is the one in gentoo, though it isn't patched.
dthsqd: but the xserver is patched... heavily
Determined1: spyder still there?
dthsqd: hmm I don't think I compiled with -ggdb
dthsqd: I'll look on the mailing list
Determined1: can someone tell me a good tutorial to understand how to install radeonhd :-P
Determined1: the docs that come with the file are inadequate