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MostAwesomeDude: Whoo, took longer than I thought.
MostAwesomeDude: I suppose getting food, and then playing music, cuts into that.
MostAwesomeDude: ...I'm officially stumped by the Mesa 7.0.x build system and general stuffs.
MostAwesomeDude: The mesa_7_0_3 tag in git doesn't build. The tarball builds, but it can't be patched up correctly.
MostAwesomeDude: Good news is that it's REALLY easy to patch everything up. If anybody wants to try it, I've got a patch that should patch Mesa 7.0.3 with r5xx support.
MostAwesomeDude: I just can't build the stupid thing.
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: wierd.. why doesn't 7.0.3 build?
airlied: make linux-dri-x86 DRI_DIRS=r300
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: TBH I don't know. I know for sure it's problems in the Mesa core.
airlied: assuming 32-bit x86
airlied: got a copy of the build log?
MostAwesomeDude: ...Nevermind. Found it. Looks like an issue with Gentoo patches to Mesa.
MostAwesomeDude: Okay, almost got it building. Couple things I'm still trying to figure out.
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: Okay, NOW I'm hitting serious build errors.
MostAwesomeDude: http://pastebin.ca/1071522
MostAwesomeDude: To be fair, radeon_screen is sort of a bastard child right now.
MostAwesomeDude: But at least Mesa's core is building.
airlied: num_gb_pipes needs a newer drm header set.
airlied: so it might jsut be best to use the fallback
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: Well, it's possible to do new DRM without new X/Mesa, right? Hmm.
spstarr: playing with fire MostAwesomeDude ? :)
MostAwesomeDude: spstarr: Attempting to backport our r5xx work to 7.0.3.
spstarr: yum
MostAwesomeDude: ...I've been at it most of the evening. I'm so bad at this. :(
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: yup..
MrCooper: you could just include the num_gb_pipes ioctl definitions in the driver, at least as a fallback
MostAwesomeDude: Back. Um, does it matter what num_gb_pipes is set to? I thought we had stuff for detecting that further down the line...
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: we detect it using the drm.
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: So it would be acceptable to just not worry about num_gb_pipes?
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: well you hada compile buf :)
airlied: compile bug..
airlied: not sure how to just ignore it :)
MostAwesomeDude: True.
agd5f: MostAwesomeDude: there's no way to read in the pipe reg in mesa
agd5f: the ddx falls back to reading it from the reg like the drm
MostAwesomeDude: agd5f: Right. I'm just trying to figure out the best behavior for 7.0
MostAwesomeDude: I mean, since we weren't concerned with it before 7.1.
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: well I suppose people need a new drm just say they need libdrm 2.3.1 :)
agd5f: yeah, they need a new drm anyway, so...
MostAwesomeDude: Hm.
MostAwesomeDude: Haha, I'm so very confused by packages without (real) auto-build systems.
MrCooper: I think the fallback value for num_gb_pipes should always be safe, just may not use the full hardware performance?
MrCooper: it doesn't really make sense to require libdrm 2.3.1 just for a couple of definitions that may not be usable at runtime anyway...
MrCooper: then again I guess it's not a big deal
fpoibaf: Hi, want to report a little thing. The mesa R300 driver report this versions:
fpoibaf: OpenGL vendor string: DRI R300 Project
hifi: would X1550 be a good buy at the moment?
fpoibaf: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
fpoibaf: Maybe these strings should be updated, reflecting that it also supports r400/r500?
adamk: hifi: The x1550 is a decent card and should work just fine with the open source driver.
MostAwesomeDude: fpoibaf: Maybe. Seems like it's not that important TBH, since by the time you see that message, you already know that direct rendering loaded and initialized fine.
hifi: I'm looking at Sapphire Radeon X1550 256MB DDR2 64bit / DVI-I / VGA / TV-OUT at 26.90 euros
hifi: whats the 64bit for anyway?
bobbens: hifi: that's almost the card I have
bobbens: it works pretty well
hifi: nice, will buy that
bobbens: funny it's still that expensive
bobbens: cost me 33 euros a year ago :)
hifi: is there much difference between the manufacturers
hifi: MSI one was few euros cheaper
MrCooper: hifi: 64 bit is the video RAM bus width; it means relatively low memory bandwidth, fast cards have 128 or even 256/512 bit width
hifi: with quakeworld / quake 2 / openarena that shouldn't matter much ;)
MostAwesomeDude: Okay, I'm finished working on this for tonight.
MostAwesomeDude: I need nha's input on how to handle the lack of shadow samplers per-fragprog.
dli: black screen with 2.6.26 :(
nha: MostAwesomeDude: ping?
dli_: any idea to fix the blank screen with 2.6.26 kernel?
MrCooper: blank screen doing what?
dli_: MrCooper, startx
MrCooper: dli_: does disabling the DRI avoid the problem? Did you have it enabled before?
Ke: dli_: perhaps you could check X.org.0.log
dli_: MrCooper, yes, I can startx with radeonhd, if I disable DRI
dli_: MrCooper, I guess radeon should also run without DRI
dli_: MrCooper, since only the DRI part is kernel related
MrCooper: so I guess you didn't have a DRM kernel module that supported your card before? What card is it?
dli_: MrCooper, it's supported in kernel 2.6.25, 0x71d4, FireGL V5250
Kano: hi, will there be a fix for rv410 + flickering soon?
bgoglin: my VTswitch (on rv370 with ati 6.9.0) is broken since I switched from Xserver 1.4.2 to 1.5rc5, any idea?
sannes: When running the driver from git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati should I also upgrade the kernel modules somehow? or is it enough to keep up-to-date with a quite recent enough kernel?
arekm: uhm, driver links directly to libs now?
moondrake: sannes: you probably should also use drm from git, i do not think any recent kernel has a drm module that is new enough (for r5xx at least)
Kano: 2.6.26 should be new enough
dli_: Kano, no, 2.6.26 breaks down here
Kano: final=
sannes: what is the git url of drm?
dli_: git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm
moondrake: sannes: you have to build the modules in the linux-core subdir, and manually copy them (IIRC radeon.ko and drm.ko) to your kernels module dir, also be sure to remove any existing drm modules there
airlied: dli_: you running git tree of everything?
osiris_: agd5f or airlied: I think we are wrong at setting up pipes num for r3xx families in drm. I have rv380 card (X600 Pro) and it worked when I set num_gb_pipes to 2. I think num_gb_pipes should be set to 1 on rv350 only (as doc says)
osiris_: (currently my card falls into num_gb_pipes = 1 case)
dli_: airlied, yes, git of everything
agd5f: osiris_: it's correct. that's the main difference between the R3xx chips and RV3xx chips
agd5f: osiris_: num pipes refers to quad pipes so 1 quad pipe = 4 pipes
osiris_: agd5f: so why it worked for me after setting num_gb_pipes = 2?
agd5f: osiris_: it may work, but you may see rendering glitches is one of the quad pipes is faulty
agd5f: if it doesn't you got lucky
osiris_: agd5f: I tried running few games and 3d and everything worked without a flaw
osiris_: *3d apps
marcheu: osiris_: google for "pipe unlocking" :)
osiris_: agd5f: I just double checked on ati site. you're right. I'm just lucky :)
carldani: hi
carldani: what's the current state of power management on RV350? The only thing I could find in the git logs is about cards with ATOMBIOS.
carldani: I'm mostly interested in having my laptop RV350 run cooler
carldani: 3D and other stuff is unneeded.
agd5f: carldani: nothing at the moment other than clock gating (option DynamicClocks)
carldani: agd5f: thanks for the info.
carldani: by the way, congratulations in the recent impressive development advances.
MrCooper: dli_: I thought you were using the DRM from the 2.6.26 kernel, not from drm Git? Also, just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work anywhere :)
bgoglin: agd5f: radeon 6.9.0 with Xserver 1.5rc5 breaks vt switch here. loading vesa first seems to work around the problem. any idea where to look at?
agd5f: bgoglin: what chip?
bgoglin: rv370
bgoglin: kind of my first bug on this chip for a very long time, I had Xserver 1.4 before
agd5f: bgoglin: vga console or vesa/uvesafb?
bgoglin: agd5f: regular vga. it's not about loading vesa first actually, it seems that the problem occurs if the first server I start after boot has my keyboard inputdevice section enabled.
agd5f: bgoglin: weird
bgoglin: agd5f: I'll dig more later tonight and let you know
bgoglin: adding just a dumb keyboard inputdevice with no option seems to be the trigger
airlied: dli_: I think there is a kernel problem with libpciaccess.
airlied: it dies in the PAT stuff with radeon, need to get a patch into -stable.
dli_: airlied, glad to know
z3ro: doh! maybe I should have checked the DRM. it shows exactly how r6xx IB's are processed. :P
z3ro: hmm this is strange. I guess fglrx uses a differnt IB start packet.
agd5f: z3ro: most stuff has moved to packet3's on r6xx. There are a lot of new packet3's packet0s still work, but packet3's are the preferred method for most things
z3ro: agd5f: yeah, I figured that. just looking at the RB dump there are hardly any packet0's.
z3ro: agd5f: btw, are you allowed to tell me, which of these packets are used by fglrx for indirect buffers? 0x28 0x32 0x3c 0x47
z3ro: thats the opcode field of the packet3 header.
z3ro: fglrx doesn't seem to use R600_IT_INDIRECT_BUFFER (0x3f)
z3ro: I think 0x32 and 0x47 look most interesting for IB's.
agd5f: z3ro: can't say yet
z3ro: ok
z3ro: btw what are amd's feelings on releasing the r6xx revenge code?
z3ro: I managed to dump one of the ib packets now anyway.
z3ro: I guess the dumps are pretty useless without reg specs anyway, but still, I'd rather get the OK from amd.
MostAwesomeDude: agd5f: Are you guys going to just sorta dump all the DRM/DRI code on us? I mean, it's not as much fun if it comes all pre-written. :3
MostAwesomeDude: On another note, how do I make the agd-powerplay branch do stuffs?
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: yeah right..
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: it might be able to draw triangles when released :)
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: More code to write -> more cash for you and more fun for me. I don't really see the downside.
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: the drm code is already in a branch
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: Ooh.
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: I wrote the code already :)
MostAwesomeDude: Good work. :3
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: I get paid to fix RHEL problems.. :)
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: Aw.
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: this stuff isn't my primary mission :)
MostAwesomeDude: I don't get paid to fix ANY problems, at least WRT code.
MostAwesomeDude: So my envy is justified, I think.
agd5f: MostAwesomeDude: there's not much new in the drm, just waiting on a few bits to get signed off on before we can push it
MostAwesomeDude: Hmm. The powerplay stuff appears to work.
MostAwesomeDude: Don't know how I'd actually test, though.
MostAwesomeDude: Mm, maybe powertop.
z3ro: hopes the docs get released this week, so I've got something to read on the plane. ;)
z3ro: hmm actually my laptop got melted. =/ forgot about that.
agd5f: MostAwesomeDude: you have to set an option in your config to force which mode you want to use
MostAwesomeDude: agd5f: Found it with some creative greps.
MostAwesomeDude: The log says it's reduced the clockspeed.
mcgreg: powertop is for laptop only?
MostAwesomeDude: mcgreg: Nah. Works for anything.
MostAwesomeDude: Well, the power usage is a tiny bit lower, and more importantly, the temperature is nearly 10C lower.
oga: agd5f: about?
agd5f: oga: powerplay?
agd5f: bbl
oga: agd5f: I was asking if you were here.
mcgreg: i tells me : no ACPI power usage estimate available - is that normal? do I need some special kernel modules for that?
MostAwesomeDude: mcgreg: Yeah, I think you need acpi.
mcgreg: I have it
MostAwesomeDude: Hmm.
MostAwesomeDude: Not sure, then.
MostAwesomeDude: Maybe processor?
mcgreg: pegasos:/home/mcgreg/drm# modprobe acpi
mcgreg: FATAL: Error inserting acpi_cpufreq (/lib/modules/2.6.26-rc9-amd64/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.ko): No such device
Ke: mcgreg: I think that feature is available on laptops only
mcgreg: oh ok
Ke: mcgreg: with acpi battery
mcgreg: ok, thx you
MostAwesomeDude: Hmm. Yeah, I see. Looks like the battery acpi module reports power consumption.
MostAwesomeDude: But I think we can safely say that lowering the GPU clock and mem speed DOES lower power and heat.
mcgreg: sure
spiritssight: can someone please walk me through installing Vx
spiritssight: DRM I think is what I was told also
rx__: Vx?
spiritssight: one sec I am looking at the log that stated the issue
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:03.547 VideoOutputXv Error: Could not find suitable XVideo surface.
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:03.548 VideoOutputXv: Falling back to X11 video output over a network socket.
spiritssight: *** May be very slow ***
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:03.554 VideoOutputXv Error: XCreateImage failed: XJ_disp(0x8463f10) visual(0x8463728)
spiritssight: XJ_depth(24) WxH(1280x800) bpl(3840)
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:03.554 VideoOutputXv Error: Failed to create X buffers.
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:03.727 Couldn't load deinterlace filter
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:03.732 OSD Theme Dimensions W: 640 H: 480
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:04.193 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:04.240 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:04.280 TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started
spiritssight: 2008-07-14 20:47:04.335 DPMS Reactivated.
rx__: oooook
rx__: next time use a pastebin
spiritssight: SORRY\
spiritssight: oops caps was on sorry again
rx__: what card?
spiritssight: WinTV 950 usb stick
rx__: that doesn't sound like an ati card...
spiritssight: oo video card
spiritssight: its a ATI radeon Mobilie x1300
rx__: i don't think there's xvmc support anyway
spiritssight: I think I am using the open source drivers
rx__: oh xv.. hmm
spiritssight: so what do I do about this
rx__: have you updated the open source driver?
spiritssight: I don't think so
spiritssight: I have never had the mythtv working
spiritssight: I have been for a while to get it running
rx__: goes look up some stuffs
rx__: wait.. are you using the x1300 for tvout?
spiritssight: No
spiritssight: I am using the VGA for a extanal monitor
rx__: anyway i think you neeed xvmc.. which isn't supported
airlied: spiritssight: have you enabled EXA?
spiritssight: what is that
spiritssight: EXA
rx__: oh.. heh airlied can help :P
airlied: add Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" to the device section of your xorg.conf
airlied: Xv might work then
rx__: oic..
spiritssight: I don't understand this stuff, I don't touch the xorg.conf as I don't know where or how to put stuff in it
rx__: it's not hard
spiritssight: ok I am in the xorg file now
rx__: look for the Driver "radeon" line
spiritssight: ok
spiritssight: it does not have it
rx__: huh..
spiritssight: I will pastebin the file
airlied: Driver "ati"?
spiritssight: http://pastebin.com/d411b8605
rx__: ok you'll need a Driver "radeon" line and the option line under Configured Video Device....
airlied: spiritssight: don't need thaqt.
rx__: ?
airlied: spiritssight: just need to add Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" to that section
rx__: o
airlied: rx__: X can work out he has a radeon.
rx__: kk
spiritssight: so I am adding option ... to the device section or what
rx__: on the line after Identifier "Configured Video Device"
rx__: Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
spiritssight: ok, how in the world can I save the file its saying some thing about premission (ubuntu)
rx__: uh.. become root
airlied: sudo
rx__: open up a terminal, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
spiritssight: I just did that, I remebered afterwords
spiritssight: I will be right back, I have to hit ctrl-alt-backspace right to get it to take effect
rx__: sure
rx__: is exa ever going to become default?
airlied: rx__: yes.
dmb: airlied, what kind of changes would be required for 3d and xv to work on multiple x servers like fglrx?
dmb: could i file a bug?
airlied: dmb: it won't matter if you file a bug :)
dmb: airlied, just wondering what the reason is :D
rx__: dmb; probably because no one filed a bug ;)
airlied: dmb: DRI doesn't work on two servers due to design issues
dmb: oh
dmb: airlied, you think radeonhd designed in a way that would work?
airlied: dmb: no its not a driver problem
dmb: it seems to work with fglrx though
dmb: unless they use there own mesa or something
dmb: or dri setup
rx__: they don't use mesa
airlied: dmb: they use their own everything.
spiritssight: ok I am back, it appears that the line I put has made my screen move much slower now
dmb: oh
rx__: they use pixie dust
dmb: i think exa doesn't work either with 2 servers
dmb: because one server is extremely extremely slow
airlied: dmb: it works but it doesn't get any kernel driver accel help
redeeman: are there any current plans to fix those design issues? :)
dmb: airlied, doesn't really seem like that, its so slow its almost unusable
airlied: dmb: yes no kernel accel is bad for EXA.
dmb: i'll try radeon driver without dri and see if its still slow
dmb: oh
dmb: no xaa for r5xx i'm guessing
MostAwesomeDude: Design issues? I hate coming in in the middle of a conversation.
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: doing 3D in two X servers.
airlied: redeeman: its on the list of things to fix in the future.
MostAwesomeDude: Ah.
airlied: I think its about number 3
dmb: thats cool
MostAwesomeDude: Isn't that one of the things blocked by DRI2?
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: nope..
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: its actually more modesetting/drm fixing
redeeman: ah
airlied: I've already demoed it working on Intel hw.
redeeman: brilliant
spiritssight: Hello MostAwesomeDude, I am still in the same boat as I was about a week ago, with out my TV playing and its still says some thing about Vx in the logs
airlied: http://airlied.livejournal.com/55110.html
airlied: wow over 6 months ago.
spiritssight: I just did the ctrl - alt - backspace and it did not work, so I just for the heck restarted and still the same results after adding option access... EXA thing
rx__: your packages are probably not new enough?
spiritssight: Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
rx__: ubuntu right?
spiritssight: correct
rx__: there's this...
rx__: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive
rx__: i've not tested it... and things might break :)
spiritssight: I don't dear go there :-) thats all I need is another month of play with this stuff gf will be thrid no tv LOL
spiritssight: ok so seeing its still doing the crap I don't know what to do
spiritssight: brb restarting the x-server thinggy
spiritssight: airlied any other advice
spiritssight: still same crap
airlied: spiritssight: no idea then does any Xv movie player work?
spiritssight: I just did the gxine and the setup check thing so install a X11 driver that supports the Xv protocol extension
airlied: xvinfo installed or say anything?
spiritssight: X-Video Extension version 2.2
spiritssight: screen #0
spiritssight: no adaptors present
airlied: spiritssight: you need a new kernel drm
spiritssight: do I dear ask how to do that
spiritssight: and is that going to effect the installation of the DVB drivers
airlied: spiritssight: shouldn'
spiritssight: so then I guess I say how please
airlied: git clone git://git.freedesktop.org/git/mesa/drm.git
airlied: cd drm/linux-core; make
airlied: and then cp drm.ko and radeon.ko into your distro kernel tree
airlied: I think using the xorg edgers stuff might be closer to useabl
airlied: they have a script on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgOnTheEdge
spiritssight: huuu
airlied: Latst drm kernel modules section
spiritssight: this is all scrarry :-)
spiritssight: how do I run the script
airlied: it says in the wiki bits
spiritssight: I am installing the script now
spiritssight: ok, I just looked more on that page, I don't see what I should do after its finished
airlied: "The script should start by double-clicking on the downloaded file, however you might have to right-click on it -> Properties -> Permissions and enable "Execute" first."
spiritssight: I have done all that\
spiritssight: its installing as I typoe
spiritssight: ok its says restart now so I am going to do so brb
sharp15__: i was using the ati proprietary driver on my gentoo box. i'm trying to switch to the oss driver. however i get a version mismatch when i try to load the radeon module.
sharp15__: the error (in Xorg.0.log) is as follows:
sharp15__: (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch.
sharp15__: [dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 8.50.3 but version 1.17.0 or newer is needed.
MostAwesomeDude: sharp15__: You're still loading fglrx.
MostAwesomeDude: You need to blacklist it or remove it.
sharp15__: MostAwesomeDude: its not on my system.
MostAwesomeDude: sharp15__: Did you just unmerge it?
MostAwesomeDude: emerge -C doesn't remove things in /lib/modules for special reasons.
sharp15__: MostAwesomeDude: yes.
MostAwesomeDude: You'll have to manually remove /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/fglrx.ko
MostAwesomeDude: Or whereever it lives.
MostAwesomeDude: find /lib/modules -name fglrx.ko -exec rm {} +
sharp15__: just delete it and re modprobe radeon?
MostAwesomeDude: Yeah.
spiritssight: ok, airleied I am back
MostAwesomeDude: You might have to rmmod radeon; rmmod drm; modprobe radeon in order to get it reloaded correctly.
spiritssight: it still won't play the TV
spiritssight: why am I having so much trouble just to watch TV
airlied: spiritssight: does xvinfo work yet?
spiritssight: same thing
spiritssight: X-Video Extension version 2.2
spiritssight: screen #0
spiritssight: no adaptors present
airlied: spiritssight: with those kernel modules and EXA enabled you should get Xv.
airlied: can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin.com
sharp15__: MostAwesomeDude: i'm still getting an error.
sharp15__: WARNING: Error inserting drm (/lib/modules/2.6.24-hardened-r3/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot allocate memory
sharp15__: FATAL: Error inserting radeon (/lib/modules/2.6.24-hardened-r3/kernel/drivers/char/drm/radeon.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
spiritssight: yes
MostAwesomeDude: sharp15__: Did you rmmod fglrx?
sharp15__: MostAwesomeDude: apparently not.
MostAwesomeDude: sharp15__: First error is because drm needs the mmap that fglrx is holding; second error is because radeon needs drm.
spiritssight: http://pastebin.com/d3caa3107
sharp15__: MostAwesomeDude: now its working. and even better if this ever happens again i'll know why. thanks for the help.
airlied: spiritssight: did you remove the EXA line?
airlied: spiritssight: you sorta needs that for Xv I think
spiritssight: oo yes, I did when the screens was moving very very slow,
spiritssight: sorry
airlied: try it now it might work with the kernel modules updated
MostAwesomeDude: sharp15__: No problem. :3
spiritssight: what was the line again please
airlied: spiritssight: Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
spiritssight: brb
spiritssight: Still the same thing when I run xvinfo
spiritssight: also still no tv
airlied: spiritssight: the driver must just be too old.
spiritssight: this is nuts :(
airlied: spiritssight: we only added support for r500 recently.
spiritssight: I don't know who it was but someone said tyhe x1300 should work :-(
airlied: spiritssight: it works fine, just use the xorg-edgers stuff..
spiritssight: ok does that mean I have to use ati
airlied: the distro you are using is too old.
spiritssight: so can I get newer one
spiritssight: and if so I ask how
airlied: spiritssight: well if you are using Ubuntu 8.0.4 just use that xorg edgers archicve
spiritssight: I just want to get this running so my gf will get off my back
airlied: well just add the packags from https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+archive
airlied: its not like it can work any worse.
spiritssight: true :-)
airlied: spiritssight: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive
airlied: actually from there.
spiritssight: why was the differents
airlied: I think use the tormod one..
airlied: it looks to have the latest driver against the normal ubuntu X server
airlied: the xorg-edgers stuff though might be a bit faster with EXA.
spiritssight: so use the first one you set
airlied: either or :) I've no idea whats in either. I don't use Ubuntu
spiritssight: oo
airlied: lunch &
spiritssight: what is the libdrm and do I install this through the install manager
airlied: spiritssight: get it all :)
spiritssight: I am trying to figure out how to get it all now :-)
spiritssight: I seem to have to install deb
spiritssight: first
spiritssight: ok I seem to be brain off as I can not download run the cmd it has on the site
spiritssight: ok I got it installing updates now
bridgman: Just skimming the backlog... fglrx doesn't like multiple x servers either AFAIK
bridgman: or we ran out of pixie dust
z3ro: bridgman: ping?
dmb: bridgeman: works fine for me for some reason
dmb: bridgeman: at least multiple xv's