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MostAwesomeDude: XD, looks pretty simple-ish.
MostAwesomeDude: Okay, I'm stumped as to why two-sided stencils wouldn't work.
MostAwesomeDude: Looks like everything's there...?
GerbilSoft: oh hey
GerbilSoft: the "moving window over texturedvideo causes crash" bug seems to be fixed :D
MostAwesomeDude: Yay.
GerbilSoft: i'll post the results in the bug report later
MostAwesomeDude: XD, I just got banned from #wiidev for arguing with a mod who wants to put copy-protection on his open-source game.
GerbilSoft: game developers are funny.
GerbilSoft: copy protection doesn't even work, anyway.
dmb: have you ever seen a game where copy protection worked?
GerbilSoft: Sonic The Hedgehog for 360
GerbilSoft: mainly because no one bought it
GerbilSoft: :)
dmb: well, that because no one was interesting in getting around it, doesn't mean the protection worked :/
GerbilSoft: it used the "awful game" protection scheme
GerbilSoft: the game's so awful, no one will even think of pirating it
dmb: MostAwesomeDude, what irc net?
MostAwesomeDude: dmb: EFNet.
MostAwesomeDude: Okay, so forcing on ATI_separate_stencil doesn't work. The code all looks correct, though.
MostAwesomeDude: dmb: Don't go over there. It is a silly place.
dmb: MostAwesomeDude, its an efnet channel, most are like that :D
dmb: does the PS3 use opengl?
MostAwesomeDude: We may never know.
MostAwesomeDude: More likely they have a static version of nVidia's OpenGL stack which they just build into the games.
dmb: airlied, were your r5xx (and intel) patches merged to linus's tree?
MostAwesomeDude: dmb: The current git should be almost completely up-to-date.
dmb: oh, nice
airlied: dmb: yeah a lot of them are upstream now.
dmb: :)
JyZyXEL: so how are we gonna figure out why i don't have Direct rendering?
MostAwesomeDude: JyZyXEL: Sure.
MostAwesomeDude: Got new DRM? Got new Mesa?
JyZyXEL: this is my Xorg error log: http://pastebin.com/f4cf44b56 and this is the output of glxinfo http://pastebin.com/f2fa9dec7
MostAwesomeDude: ...Do "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo"
JyZyXEL: MostAwesomeDude it kinda prints the excactly same thing as "glxinfo"
MostAwesomeDude: Exactly?
JyZyXEL: yea
JyZyXEL: ionno lemme try diff them
JyZyXEL: wc -l was the same
MostAwesomeDude: Which card, which Mesa, and which DRM?
JyZyXEL: ATI 9600XT
JyZyXEL: Mesa i don't know what it is
JyZyXEL: neither i know what DRM is
quicksilver: OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.3)
quicksilver: that's his mesa version.
quicksilver: isn't it?
JyZyXEL: you would think so yea
quicksilver: [dri] radeon.o kernel module version is 8.49.7 but version 1.17.0 or newer is needed.
MostAwesomeDude: !
JyZyXEL: im trying to figure out who the hell diff works
MostAwesomeDude: FGLRX!
quicksilver: and that looks like the DRI probllem to me
MostAwesomeDude: JyZyXEL: Either switch to the open driver, or go to #ati for fglrx support.
JyZyXEL: oh you mean i have fglrx kernel module loaded
JyZyXEL: i loaded the radeon module
MostAwesomeDude: Yes
JyZyXEL: lets try again
MostAwesomeDude: You need to unload fglrx.
elbeardmorez: hi. I get corrupt vts when I try and switch, and I've no idea how to start troubleshooting this. Does the radeon driver take care of 'console graphics' or does a different basic vesa driver take over?
JyZyXEL: yea ofc
JyZyXEL: i unloaded fglrx and loaded radeon
JyZyXEL: also i have Driver "radeon" in my xorg.conf
MostAwesomeDude: elbeardmorez: Known problem with radeon; if you update to the 6.8.191 or current git head, it should work fine.
JyZyXEL: MostAwesomeDude having the radeon kernel module loaded doesn't help at all
JyZyXEL: MostAwesomeDude wait it helps a little! ;)
JyZyXEL: i have the libGL error now
elbeardmorez: MostAwesomeDude: i'm using git everything now.
JyZyXEL: MostAwesomeDude thats my error http://pastebin.com/d2caf57d5
MrCooper: JyZyXEL: that's probably the libGL from fglrx, you need the one from Mesa
JyZyXEL: ok
JyZyXEL: ill uninstall fglrx
MostAwesomeDude: JyZyXEL: You will need to reinstall Mesa, or issue "eselect opengl set xorg-x11" if you're on Gentoo.
JyZyXEL: im on debian
JyZyXEL: i wonder in what package is the Mesa
MostAwesomeDude: JyZyXEL: IIRC, libgl-mesa-dev or something like that.
JyZyXEL: ok
quicksilver: libgl1-mesa-dri
quicksilver: and friends
quicksilver: just installing that one should pick up the others as dependencies I think.
JyZyXEL: yea
JyZyXEL: apt-get remove fglrx-source fglrx-kernel-src fglrx-kernel-2.6.24-1-686 fglrx-glx fglrx-driver fglrx-control fglrx-atieventsd
JyZyXEL: byebye fglrx
JyZyXEL: i have a bad feeling that im gonna end up breaking everything
JyZyXEL: oh wait i seem to have Direct rendering: Yes
JyZyXEL: :--O
JyZyXEL: i seem to get few warnings tho
JyZyXEL: i need /etc/drirc and /home/foobar/.drirc
JyZyXEL: anyone happen to have
MrCooper: they're optional
MostAwesomeDude: You can install driconf if you really want them.
glisse: agd5f: fglrx wait for gui_dma_idle after 2d blit
glisse: agd5f: i got more wait until stuff to do in ddx but it's better to wait a bit an do another release when the code is proven to help or at least not harm
GNU\colossus: does xf86-video-ati 6.9.0 RC2 come with support for the 780G series yet?
glisse: GNU\colossus: modesetting should be supported thanks to atombios
GNU\colossus: glisse: ok, does this imply full RanR-1.2-support?
GNU\colossus: and I guess Xvideo and DRI/GLX are still TODOs?
GNU\colossus: RandR, even
GNU\colossus: (too many breadcrumbs in my keyboard....)
MostAwesomeDude: GNU\colossus: Modesetting only.
GNU\colossus: I see
GNU\colossus: seems like it will be a few weeks/months down the road until I can finally replace my HTPC mobo then
^^MAg^^: is it possible to have different DPI on different monitors using xrandr?
MrCooper: ^^MAg^^: RandR 1.2 tracks it per output, but clients that aren't RandR 1.2 aware will still only see the single screen value
quicksilver: I'm not really sure what you'd expect to sensible happen on a window spanning over two different resolutions?
^^MAg^^: i've got two 1920 screens but on is laptop 15" and other is 24" LCD
^^MAg^^: so fonts on 24" are too big and on 15" are too small
glisse: agd5f, airlied: according to my reading we wrongly compute ring size rb_bufsz parameters
glisse: for instance 1Mo ringsize give size_l2qw = drm_order(1024*1024 / 8) = 17
glisse: but it should be 19
glisse: is tripple checking is calculus :)
glisse: nop it's fine size is in dword
michaellarabel: To agd5f and others: The radeon driver is working with the Radeon HD 4870 too.
GerbilSoft: here's a weird one
GerbilSoft: so i have vlc running with a DVB stream
GerbilSoft: loading kopete causes the DVB stream to freeze - i have to close VLC and reopen it
GerbilSoft: same happens with mplayer and kopete
vbmithr: Hello
vbmithr: my driver try to load r300_dri.so
vbmithr: all is supposed to work, but when i do a glxinfo, it says that direct rendering is not enabled
vbmithr: and it's try to open /usr/lib/xorg ... r300_dri.so
vbmithr: it's normal ?
airlied: yes.. have you or distro install a 3D driver?
vbmithr: i've installed the lastest radeon driver from git
vbmithr: with modules from mesa/drm git
vbmithr: the radeon and drm modules are loaded
airlied: so you need a mesa 3D driver from mesa/mesa git also.
vbmithr: no problem with X, i've checked the log, I have just an error for AIGLX
vbmithr: ok
airlied: same thing.. just need to build r300_dri.so
vbmithr: ok
vbmithr: r300_dri.so is bundled with mesa ?
mitsarionas: hi... is there any branch with 3d support for r600 i could check out?
mattst88: vbmithr, yes, that's right
mattst88: mitsarionas, no.
mitsarionas: :(
vbmithr: and
vbmithr: I have a way to build only that lib ?
vbmithr: or must I build the entire mesa ?
airlied: vbmithr:you can configure mesa --with-dri-drivers=r300 I think
airlied: you still need to build all mesa as that is the core of the 3D driver
airlied: its not bundled, mesa is part of it.
vbmithr: ok, thank you
vbmithr: mesa takes hours to compile :)
gustaf1: I was thinking... There is this "backlight" applet in gnome. Will that ever work for normal monitors (not just panels for laptops)? I have two new monitors with all kinds of EDID DDC etc... Is there a way to control these monitors brightness from software?
agd5f: just pushed r6xx drm. no 3d yet. still need mesa and ddx support.
adamk_: Excellent work.
adamk_: Does that give textured video on r600?
airlied: adamk_: nope not yet :)
airlied: its just kernel support to do stuff later.
adamk_: Ahhh, gotcha.
adamk_: Very preliminary, then :-)
airlied: agd5f: so the rs480 suspend problem is the panel gets distorrted..
airlied: it looks like the driver keeps running fine, and stuff displays, but VT switching gives a distorted text mode and VT switching back gives the same as before hand
airlied: I'm getting him to file a bug, and I might fix radeontool to be more like avivotool
dmb: hey
Guest97092: i'm on my ATI Rage Mobility L AGP 2x (rev64)
dmb: thats mach64 right?
dmb: can the r5xx gpu address high memory?
\3TATUK: What's the difference between 'radeon' and 'radeonhd'?
airlied: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7032
airlied: \3TATUK: read that. its mostly still true.
\3TATUK: Thanks.
\3TATUK: Do I need to install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd (on Debian Etch) in order to use the xorg "radeon" driver?
airlied: nope..
airlied: -ati packages contain radeon
\3TATUK: Only for the radeonhd features, then?
airlied: well if you need something radeonhd provides then for that, it apparantly modesets really well.
airlied: if you are on r600 they are pretty close in terms of usefulness
GerbilSoft: airlied: have you checked out xrenderbenchmark?
GerbilSoft: http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=820 - on my RV530 there's quite a few operations that are a bit slow
airlied: GerbilSoft: we could probably speed up a few more things, but micro-benchmarks are rarely interesting :)
airlied: you end up optimising things nobody is really using.
GerbilSoft: ok, just checking.
GerbilSoft: some stuff like scrolling seems to be a bit slow, but it might just be qt3 or kde3
GerbilSoft: haven't tried kde4 yet
airlied: have you got the output from that benchmark?
GerbilSoft: it's still running
airlied: ah just running it now.. not sure what bits we could further do..