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famicom: Hi there
famicom: I've got a quick question here
famicom: Is there any form of h.264 accelleration with this driver
ejs1920: no, not yet
famicom: what about HDMI output along with sound?
ejs1920: not sure, i think the sound is supported in alsa
ejs1920: but i don't have any fancy new card
famicom: ok, stupid question and somewhat offtopic
famicom: can any ati card with either open source or proprietary driver provide smooth 1080p video playback over hdmi
ejs1920: i think the cpu will be the main limit
famicom: what AM2 amd cpu do you reccommend
ejs1920: no idea, sorry
Kano: hi, is there a way to play games which require GLSL?
MrCooper: only i965 supports GLSL with free drivers so far
Kano: ah, thats bad, i only have got G33 to try
Kano: and radeon
Kano: but not 965GM or?
MrCooper: anything with the 965 3D engine
MrCooper: I can never remember the various marketing names
Kano: well 965GM is modified. maybe G35 later? this is similar, G33 was a mod of 945
Kano: why is there no radeon support when all docs are available now?
MrCooper: for older cards: because they don't really support it in hardware, so something like LLVM (i.e. Gallium3D) will be necessary to handle it
MrCooper: for the newer cards that could handle it directly, the driver just isn't that far along yet
Kano: well r300+ would be enough
MrCooper: no, only R500+ can really handle stuff like flow control
Kano: but fglrx can do with r300/r400 too
MrCooper: they require a smart compiler
MrCooper: hence LLVM
Kano: is that gallium3d part of mesa?
Kano: well just found out that this llvm is used for leopard, could that used for standard mesa too?
glisse: Kano: it will
Kano: any time expectation
glisse: Kano: llvm work as a demo in gallium branch but i am sure Zack will got to it again soon
glisse: then it's just the matter of when a driver for radeon hw get written
Kano: would be cool if all featueres would work
glisse: i think basic support for r3xx/r4xx and maybe r5xx should popup during summer
glisse: but for feature like flow control dont expect much from r3xx/r4xx hw
glisse: there is a limit to what the compiler can do
glisse: and i am sure fglrx won't handle complexe program either
Kano: well fglrx can not show pointsprites since new codebase, is this from this part too?
drs_: uhm just tried to use radeon driver.. it made my screen like its res was 600x400, any changes i make to xorg.conf dont seem to take affect. is there something i am doing wrong?
Kano: i had some crazy effects too with the vga connector, dvi->vga worked better
drs_: yea well if i use dvi it doesnt even load
MrCooper: agd5f: looks like a nice set of changes you just dropped :)
agd5f: MrCooper: yeah good stuff :)
MrCooper: do they improve text throughput significantly on some cards?
agd5f: MrCooper: not much, but it fixes bad interactions with 3D and exa/textured video
MrCooper: cool
tigerchen: agd5f: could you tell me what happened here: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x22
agd5f: tigerchen: it's caused by a non-conformant visual. I'm guessing rated to krh's dri2 changes
agd5f: *related
agd5f: tigerchen: you may need to pull in some mesa fixes
tigerchen: just building mesa new
agd5f: try and merge mesa master into dave's r500-test branch
MrCooper: actually, that warning is muted in current Git, so that libGL seems oldish
bigon: hi does anybody try to run phun with the radeon driver?
MrCooper: never heard of it
bigon: http://phun.cs.umu.se/wiki it's a physics engine
tigerchen: MrCooper: hmm, libGL belongs to mesa, and that is from current git but i think airlieds r500-test
MrCooper: maybe that is just that old then
MrCooper: bottom line, that warning isn't a problem in itself
MrCooper: phun looks like fun, but no source code?
tigerchen: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
mikkoc: tigerchen: did you make the modified mesa ebuild? :)
tigerchen: yes
tigerchen: mom, i will nopaste it
MrCooper: tigerchen: what agd5f said then
mikkoc: does it work?
mikkoc: ok
tigerchen: http://rafb.net/p/YLOfrc33.html
tigerchen: http://rafb.net/p/lZlWOH58.html
tigerchen: first is x11-drm with r500-support branch
mikkoc: ah cool
tigerchen: and second mesa from airlieds with r500test
mcgreg: hmm textured video used to work with xserver 1.4 fine, seems it is broken with xserver 1.5 (using XAA). with todays git changes
tigerchen: you might have to remove your /usr/portage/distfiles/git-src/mesa dir
mikkoc: ok
tigerchen: mikkoc: and i have to get a patch for the pciids
tigerchen: but got something elso on my mind first
mikkoc: ah
mikkoc: so it won't work out of the box?
tigerchen: mikkoc: you'd have to add two patches to the mes ebuild to add your ids
tigerchen: it will build out of the box but it will give you unknown chip id 0x7145, can't guess.
tigerchen: or somithing like that
mikkoc: ah, i think i'll wait for you then :)
mikkoc: im in no hurry
tigerchen: k
tigerchen: mikkoc: i think i have a new ebuild, but you will propably have to alter the patches
mikkoc: for my chipset?
tigerchen: http://rafb.net/p/xqxITr87.html
tigerchen: yes
tigerchen: since i dont know your pci_id
tigerchen: http://rafb.net/p/mSZg5M96.html
tigerchen: first: ebuild, second: patch
mikkoc: how do i know it?
mikkoc: tigerchen: which videocard do you have?
tigerchen: either: check error-msg in glxinfo
tigerchen: mikkoc: x1400 on a t60
tigerchen: or: lspci -n
mikkoc: uhm, mine it's an x1400
mikkoc: on a dell
mikkoc: 01:00.0 0300: 1002:7145
tigerchen: oh then the patch should work
tigerchen: 7145 here as well
mikkoc: lol ok
tigerchen: so go ahead and try it out
mikkoc: tigerchen: will i need xserver from git?
rx__: you shouldn't need xserver from git
mikkoc: ok
mikkoc: thx
mikkoc: tigerchen: should i re-emerge x11-libs/libdrm too?
mikkoc: tigerchen: x11-drm fails for me
mikkoc: did you get it to compile?
tigerchen: mikkoc: yes
tigerchen: mikkoc: what's the error-msg?
mikkoc: the ebuild from the overlay compiles fine
mikkoc: hold on
mikkoc: drm_agpsupport.c:659: error: 'drm_agp_flush_chipset' undeclared here (not in a function)
mikkoc: whole log here: http://rafb.net/p/8fUbyI71.html
mikkoc: but i dont think this is your ebuilds fault...
tigerchen: no idea what's wrong there, i would suggest that you check your unmasked git-ebuilds with this list: http://rafb.net/p/UOqKTq77.html
tigerchen: that's what i have unmasked here
mikkoc: im missing the x11-proto/glproto
spstarr_work: anyone report firefox + gnash == takes out system + X?
tigerchen: :( but i still get the Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
tigerchen: when i try to start glxgeard
tigerchen: when i try to start glxgears
exituz23: hi
exituz23: i have a radeon hd 3870. can u tell me pls where I can find and how to install a driver for Ubuntu Linux?
crowzz159: hello
crowzz159: i kno that this is the right place but i need some help with a resolution problem
crowzz159: i cant get the native for my monitor
crowzz159: but i figured maybe someone would know something