bridgman_: yeah, I was getting "peopled out" in the city
bridgman_: started thinking about a cottage, realized that with the hours I worked I would never get there...
bridgman_: best compromise was "half way to cottage country"
EruditeHermit: 70km is still a long commute
EruditeHermit: hour driving
EruditeHermit: or train
EruditeHermit: each way
bridgman_: the drive isn't so bad, I'm almost at work by the time I wake up
EruditeHermit: I hate driving
bridgman_: the drive *in*
bridgman_: I like driving; I drive around instead of watching TV
EruditeHermit: lol
EruditeHermit: TV, what is that?
bridgman_: it's what they make DVDs from
EruditeHermit: oh plastic
EruditeHermit: =p
bridgman_: bingo
EruditeHermit: btw
bridgman_: the 407 highway that bypasses toronto is being extended out to run maybe 5 km south of my house so the drive will get a lot easier
bridgman_: that was part of the plan
EruditeHermit: nice
EruditeHermit: but the connectivity is a deal breaker
bridgman_: next year I cut down a whole whack of trees, replenish my firewood, and get line of sight for satellite internet
EruditeHermit: save the trees!
bridgman_: 50 acres, sustainable managed forest
EruditeHermit: wow
EruditeHermit: you can grow your own food
bridgman_: cut the scrawny trees, let the healthy ones grow
bridgman_: yeah, if I can eat pine and fungus ;)
EruditeHermit: strawberries like cold
bridgman_: growing season is about 3 weeks
bridgman_: it's not that bad really, lots of farms around, but it's tough farming in Canada
EruditeHermit: are you canadian
bridgman_: I thought strawberries liked greenhouses and greenhouses laughed at cold
EruditeHermit: they don't like snow
EruditeHermit: but they grow in colder climates
bridgman_: yep, would have been english except my parent's flight home was cancelled
bridgman_: so I'm canadian
bridgman_: go figure
bridgman_: but I have a toque
EruditeHermit: that is unique
EruditeHermit: so is anyone working on r6xx-7xx stuff for radeon?
EruditeHermit: or is agd5f only doing it for radeonhd
EruditeHermit: if so, how hard would it be to port?
bridgman_: it'll get ported as soon as it stabilizes; we're trying to keep the accel code common between the drivers
bridgman_: I think it took agd5f a day to port from radeon to radeonhd ;)
bridgman_: making it work over the new memory manager is a different story, that'll be a lot of work
bridgman_: but I guess if the 5xx code is working maybe adding new gpus will be easy
EruditeHermit: so what is an easy thing that needs to be done
EruditeHermit: for radeon
bridgman_: XvMC isn't easy but it would be fun
bridgman_: I probably need to punt this to agd5f, I mostly focus on what *does* work ;)
bridgman_: actually XvMC might be easy, not sure
bridgman_: it
bridgman_: it's really just more stuff on top of Xv
EruditeHermit: as more and more of the code becomes common, do you think the radeonhd devs can be convinced to give up on radeonhd?
EruditeHermit: or can radeon support of older cards be integrated back
EruditeHermit: seems like extra work for agd5f to work at getting both working
bridgman_: hard to say; most likely is that both drivers will survive until KMS becomes the norm, then the stuff which is different between the drivers will become kind of a non-issue
bridgman_: might get a merge, might get a third driver
EruditeHermit: also
EruditeHermit: with catalyst 9.1, my OGL string in amdccc is still 2.1
bridgman_: the accel code is pretty much common between the two, at least for the non-mm code paths
EruditeHermit: is that just a string that wasn't updated or is something wrong
bridgman_: I don't know, that's one of my questions for monday
EruditeHermit: ok
EruditeHermit: so others have noticed it too
bridgman_: yep, there's also an issue where if you try to create a certain 3.0-specific context then the 2.1 string seems to cause Bad Things
EruditeHermit: glxinfo only says 2.1 too
bridgman_: yeah, everything looks at the same string AFAIK
EruditeHermit: 9.1 is nice without the video flicker
EruditeHermit: but I can't wait for an open source 3D enabled driver
EruditeHermit: that I don't have to sell my soul for
bridgman_: shouldn't be long; memory manager is the gate for everything
EruditeHermit: yep
EruditeHermit: thats why I bought the 4850
bridgman_: and that's airlied's top priority (well really kms is, but kms needs mm so...)
bridgman_: (and actually family is top priority now and kms/mm comes after that, but it's All Good)
EruditeHermit: and so it should be
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: I'm doing Rawhide updates; what (if anything) changed in DDX and libdrm for us?
moeSizlak: anyone know a way i can uniquely map a 52 bit integer with exactly 7 bits set to a unique index between 0 and 133 million (52 choose 7) ?
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: nothing, just fixed a memory corruption on an IGP chipset
airlied: MostAwesomeDude: you ever get to test any of the imipmap code?
airlied: glisse: the mipmap code is failing tests in piglit for me
MostAwesomeDude: airlied: Just turning on my X dev box after a weekend. Been getting used to my "new" job.
MostAwesomeDude: Gonna try dumping more stuff. I was thinking; it could be that EXA setup is incorrect and that it's actually EXA that's freezing, not the actual draw commands that I'm sending.
MostAwesomeDude: But first I think
MostAwesomeDude: I'm gonna write out a passthrough shader.
ganastasiou: hello everyone i need some help with radeon driver
ganastasiou: i have seen on big desktop that the second screen is flickering
ganastasiou: for instance when i see in kde the background of my folders
airlied: hmm two levels of mipmaps work in piglit tests now.
glisse: airlied: i don't understand the new mipmap code, i need to take a deep look at it
glisse: anyway haven't time for anythings lately
kaostiee: hi
kaostiee: can anyone tell me which part of driver (function or .c file) is responsible for VT switch and restoring of VGA display?
agd5f: kaostiee: EnterVT/LeaveVT functions
agd5f: in radeon_driver.c
kaostiee: agd5f: thank you, i want to find what causes dark console after VT switch on {Net,Open}BSD :)
agd5f: kaostiee: cool. good luck
mattst88: kaostiee, I see that problem too, with my Radeon 9100.
mattst88: if you happen to find the cause, I'd like to test any fixes.
kaostiee: mattst88: many ppl have this problem, im not good at C, but if noone is going to look for fix, then at least ill try to compare code with XFree's
mattst88: agd5f, wouldn't this stand a good chance of being a bug that gets squashed by switching to KMS?
agd5f: mattst88: it's no longer an issues with kms since you are never restoring some old state. you allways program exactly what you want
mattst88: OK, that makes sense
MrCooper: could be related to the vgaHW stuff?
kaostiee: MrCooper: hmn, i see lots of vgaHWRestore calls
agd5f: kaostiee: the vga stuff shouldn't be touched on ppc
agd5f: vgaaccess should be false by default on ppc, nevertheless, you could try setting it just in case. Option "VGAAccess" "False"
MrCooper: who said anything about PPC?
kaostiee: agd5f: afair VGAAccess "True" of "False" doesnt help, but it was about 3 months when i was playing with xorg, ill check that again too
kaostiee: and its about x86
agd5f: sorry, I was reading a bug about vt switch on ppc, and I mixed them up
Turjakas: umm, which is correct, the topic (no accel for R600) or the wiki page which says that 2D EXA acceleration is available?
adamk: Turjakas: Both :-)
adamk: 2D EXA acceleration is available if you are using development code from a separate git branch.
adamk: Or, at leastg, that's the case with radeonhd.
Turjakas: ok, so the actual released versions don't have acceleration.. :)
adamk: Correct.
Turjakas: The GNOME screensaver preferences freezes and the screensaver (just blanking) will remain blank with just the mouse cursor visible - there's no way to leave screensaver. (using version 6.10)
Turjakas: is this a known problem? (I've already tried to search the mailing lists with no luck)
soreau: 6.10?
Turjakas: the driver version
spstarr_work: airlied: haven't had much time to work on r3xx DRI2 stuffs?
jim_ec2: so what's fresh in the works?