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arekm: agd5f: .198?
arekm: "release often" ;)
airlied: agd5f: nice r600 bits..
agd5f: yep. seems pretty solid
airlied: hmm I'm just testing it now..
agd5f: airlied: question is should this be 6.7.198 or 6.8?
airlied: agd5f: ohh.. good question..
airlied: agd5f: do we have any really bad things outstanding? M7 LVDS??
agd5f: airlied: I haven't had any reports other than damentz
agd5f: although as soon as it's released there will be a ton of bug reports probably
airlied: those thinkpads were quite popular..
OipOS: Eh, latest git seems to run without any unknown problems here.
airlied: agd5f: bah release 6.8.0 at this stage I think we mostly good enough..
agd5f: airlied: sure. we can always released 6.8.1 ;)
airlied: agd5f: maybe we should call it 7.0 :)
OipOS: Though fully accelerated EXA on r300 seems like a nice milestone.
airlied: OipOS: we haven't that yet..
airlied: OipOS: we have only rotation..
airlied: OipOS: though its a lot easier for someone else to play around now..
OipOS: I meant that 6.8 might be a nice release for that.
airlied: OipOS: yeah I'm not sure either us have enough time to dedicate to it though..
OipOS: Though I have no idea how long it'll take.
airlied: and tbh EXA is shithouse without proper kernel TTM..
OipOS: That's always comforting to hear. Lmao.
airlied: really we've learned you either accel everything or accel nothing for people to think something is fast..
OipOS: I'm not sure I get that statement.
airlied: the big problem with hw accel is sw fallbacks..
airlied: when you hit a sw fallback on a surface in VRAM, you get this massive latency as its copied back to main memory
airlied: or the CPU accesses it in VRAM slowly.
airlied: so essentially hitting a sw fallback mostly implies you've lost..
OipOS: Interesting. Well yeh, the more reason to make it a part of a milestone release.
damentz: agd5f: ya, mine still has the resolution changing bug
MrCooper: airlied: that's certainly true, but TTM doesn't magically fix it either...
airlied: MrCooper: no but it at least allows us to use the GART for textures..
airlied: and pixmaps if necessary..
airlied: MrCooper: as I said just never hitting a sw fallback is the fix..
airlied: something we should be able to do with r300 hw I think..
MrCooper: right, and that would work just as well without TTM
airlied: well having GART stuff also makes doing sw fallbacks a lot more bearable..
MrCooper: hopefully
airlied: as I believe we won't get trapezoids dont for quite a while.
MrCooper: yeah, I suspect that's for glucose :)
airlied: MrCooper: or openvg :-P
MrCooper: sure, whatever :)
MrCooper: it'll come down to Gallium either way ;)