mcgreg: I bought the DVI-HMDI adapter and it works finee. now the picture looks sharper
captnmark: Option "Composite" "disable" # yippee
oleg: HI colleagues
oleg: I have a question
oleg: My ATI Radeon X1650 and TV tuner AverMedia does not work together
oleg: Would you like help me. Some times I'd like TV
dvandyk: hi everybody
dvandyk: i have a weird problem with my xorg config, probably somebody can help?
dvandyk: dvandyk@phi X11 $ xrandr
dvandyk: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 640
dvandyk: how can i change that?
dvandyk: can this be due to DRM disabled in kernel?
rx__: it's not DRM related
rx__: do you have modelines in your xorg.conf?
dvandyk: rx__: shall i nopaste?
dvandyk: rx__: i'm currently not using the second screen
rx__: you shouldn't need horizsync/vertrefresh for a LCD
dvandyk: i'll try to remove that
dvandyk: that's better!
dvandyk: ok, now xrandr lists my big lcd as connected and has the correct modes
dvandyk: but i have no signal there
dvandyk: i stand corrected, i do
dvandyk: but it's cloned
dvandyk: ah, i need xinerama for 2 desktops, right?
rx__: not xinerama is deprecated
rx__: xinerama is deprecated
airlied: dvandyk: xrandr can do it...
dvandyk: ok, how do i create 2 desktops?
airlied: using --left-of etc..
airlied: you may need a virtual line in xorg.conf though
dvandyk: dvandyk@phi ~ $ xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of VGA-0
dvandyk: xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1360x1200 (desired size 2640x1024)
dvandyk: airlied: i guess that's what you mean by virtual line, right?
airlied: dvandyk: yes..
dvandyk: airlied: care to tell me where to look that up`
airlied: or some ur;
dvandyk: hm... xvideo only works on one screen!
airlied: url close to that
airlied: dvandyk: it'll work if you have separate desktops
airlied: overlay can only work on one crtc
rx__: i think the Virtual goes in SubSection Display
dvandyk: airlied: ah, ok
dvandyk: hm, that didn't work
dvandyk: i have that virtual line, but xrandr still refuses to do what i say
dvandyk: smae error message
dvandyk: can i check somewhere how big my virtual screen is?
airlied: line in wrong place maybe
airlied: xrandr says it in the firt line
airlied: olpc typingfailurefor me
dvandyk: dvandyk@phi X11 $ xrandr
dvandyk: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1360 x 1024, maximum 1360 x 1200
dvandyk: got why
dvandyk: thank you for your help
wirechief_: share your success...
dvandyk: i put the virtual line into the wrong screen section
dvandyk: i had two of them because i copied a xorg.conf which used xinerama i guess
wirechief_: well that can happen
dvandyk: still, one problem remains
dvandyk: kde now thinks my deskopt is too big :-)
wirechief_: hmm. well some mv .kde to .kdeold then reboot
dvandyk: reboot or restart X?
wirechief_: may not help but worth a try
rx__: reboot seems overkill to me ;)
wirechief_: hmm maybe it kiled em...
dvandyk: no matter what, kde refuses to recognise 2 monitors
dvandyk: the problem persists
wirechief_: what happens with xrandr --auto.
dvandyk: my left screen has 1360x768, but the virtual screen is 1024 high
dvandyk: so i don't see the lower part there
dvandyk: and xrandr only lists one screen
dvandyk: is that supposed to be correct?
wirechief_: well i think i would be doing some google with xrander auto-- and see what other options are available.
wirechief_: i dont use two screens so not much help
wirechief_: phoronix has a tutorial on it too.
dvandyk: i guess it's a kde problem
wirechief_: perhaps but i would investigate further the commands that xrander can offer
dvandyk: well, everything is correct from a xrandr point of view
dvandyk: both resolutions are correct
wirechief_: at least until nothing works that is.
dvandyk: i got 2 non-cloned outputs
wirechief_: well, another idea did you try uninstall and reinstall of kde ?
dvandyk: it's just that kde put both screens into one virtual screen
dvandyk: wirechief_: i surely won't uninstall kde
wirechief_: well you do that in init 3
wirechief_: have you not used init 3 ?
wirechief_: any time you try to do stuff in x you should do it in init 3 or risk breakage
dvandyk: why should that be so?
wirechief_: when you have things that are associated with x updated while in x you can break them
wirechief_: something i learned while using sidux
dvandyk: well, i restarted x anytime
wirechief_: always to a dist-upgrade in init 3
wirechief_: so many have broken their kde by not following that is is simply amazing
dvandyk: you refer to me installing X and kde, right?
wirechief_: well are you using ubuntu ?
dvandyk: this kde is installed for quite sometime and saw several reboots and recompiles
dvandyk: wirechief_: no i'm not
wirechief_: well i really would do all my updates and anything associated with x in init 3
wirechief_: but that is a users choice
dvandyk: or just shut X down manually
wirechief_: you still need to be in init 3 as things are still running.. but that again is user choice
wirechief_: if you have questions, refer to www.sidux.com and thier manual on their warnings but its all user choice.
dvandyk: no, things are not running anymore once you killed X
dvandyk: that's why it's called 'kill'
dvandyk: especially if you do 'kill -9'
wirechief_: well their script will detect if you have stuff runnig
wirechief_: hey if its working for you why worry..
wirechief_: just thought i would suggest it.
wirechief_: good luck...
dvandyk: ok, i think it's an xrandr thing... mplayer maximizes on one screen, but blacks out the second
rx__: you're using xv?
rx__: or opengl?
dvandyk: mplayer is using xv
rx__: i think airlied mentioned this earlier
rx__: only one overlay per crtc
rx__: so i meant to say overlay will only work on one screen
dvandyk: well, xv works on both
dvandyk: even when i move the window from one screen to the other
dvandyk: eh, no, it doesn't