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rx__: did level1 ever get the VT problem resolved?
edward: is running the latest ATI driver from GIT master, with S-Video to a PAL TV. If I set a the tv_standard to nstc I get a good picture in greyscale, if I set it to PAL I don't get a picture. any ideas?
OipOS: If I'm right, PAL isn't in the driver yet.
OipOS: And if you use a PAL TV, then yeh, NTSC will give a greyscale picture.
Whoopie: edward: I use PAL here with latest radeon.
edward: Whoopie: you didn't have to do anything special to make it work?
Whoopie: edward: no
Whoopie: edward: just buy a new s-video cable. with my old, I also had a greyscale picture. ;)
edward: interesting
edward: with tv_standard set to PAL?
edward: just bought this S-Video cable on eBay
OipOS: Oh right yes, certain cables do that.
Whoopie: edward: no, (II) RADEON(0): Output S-video has no monitor section
Whoopie: (II) RADEON(0): Default TV standard: NTSC
Whoopie: (II) RADEON(0): TV standards supported by chip: NTSC PAL NTSC-J
Whoopie: edward: even if my TV is PAL and the card is NTSC, it works fine.
edward: posted to the mailing list
thomas_sch: mobility radeon m6 ly <--- i wanna use this card with ubuntu and 3D is there any good way?
thomas_sch: can anyone help me with this?
ajax: it should work out of the box.
thomas_sch: with 3D?
thomas_sch: so i can use compiz?
ajax: up, enter.
thomas_sch: which driver do u mean? i've tested all ...
ajax: radeon.
thomas_sch: ajax: what's about xserver-xorg-video-ati and libgl1-mesa-dri? or is it really radeon? for me nothing really works
ajax: those are the 2d and 3d driver packages for radeon hardware, yes.
thomas_sch: i'm just confused cause i think i tested all the ubuntu intern driver but maybe i have just misconfigured my xorg.conf is there any 100% working xorg.conf for my card with 3D and actual drivedr?
ajax: there's almost nothing you can do in xorg.conf to break 3d.
thomas_sch: but what is with dri and so on? i read the craziest things bout that and misconfigured it a few times ... also all forums say that my card is a problem nr1 card >.<
ajax: can you post your X log somewhere? pastebin or whatever. it should tell you why DRI isn't being enabled.
thomas_sch: atm i can't ... but i will try to past it as soon as possible
thomas_sch: this is my actual xorg.conf is there anything wrong about it ? http://rafb.net/p/bftZsj72.html
ajax: looks fine to me./
ajax: you've got meaningless options in the Device section, but whatever, we just ignore them.
airlied: thomas_sch: like fastwrites might crash your machine..
airlied: thomas_sch: how about you re-install the OS, don't mess with it and see if compiz works :)
airlied: thomas_sch: then you can mess it up. by playing with configs from the Internet..
thomas_sch: reinstallation is a thing ... :/ but as long as it is not my mashine i can't do it
airlied: thomas_sch: so remove all the options after BusID..
thomas_sch: will give it a try
airlied: next start x, run glxinfo see if direct rendering: yes
airlied: then try starting compiz..
thomas_sch: k will check it out when my friend answer me :> seems like he is afk while i'm debugging >.<
tormod: thomas_sch: fastwrites is a good way to crash. it's not ignored on Debian/Ubuntu
tormod: thomas_sch: it should work fine without any xorg.conf (except keyboard layout, which you can set in Gnome/KDE)
thomas_sch: hmm but should i use xserver-xorg-video-ati and libgl1-mesa-dri or radeon what's better in you mind
thomas_sch: i try to make it as good as it can be
airlied: thomas_sch: there is only one driver..
airlied: thomas_sch: it should work fine out of the box without you doing anything..
thomas_sch: but i did to much >.<
airlied: the -ati driver contains 2D support, the libgl1-mesa-dri is needed for 3D
airlied: you need both..
thomas_sch: yeah and both are installed
thomas_sch: but i installed the open source driver as well
thomas_sch: so i reinstall atm the driver
thomas_sch: i removed the infos after busid too
thomas_sch: so now i try to restart X
airlied: thomas_sch: they are all open source drivers..
airlied: thomas_sch: there is no closed source driver for that card..
airlied: thomas_sch: but the distro provided drivers should be fine..
thomas_sch: nope ... fglrx is not imho ... but i mean open source driver of ati
thomas_sch: the real release
thomas_sch: and i have deactivated all after busid and restartet but glxinfo said:
thomas_sch: direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
airlied: thomas_sch: so does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say anything about Direct rendering?
thomas_sch: airlied: something ... something weird
thomas_sch: (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled
airlied: so did you try and install fglrx at all?
thomas_sch: fglrx will not work with this card
airlied: thomas_sch: I didn't ask that :), have you ever tried to install it?
airlied: try LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
thomas_sch: yeah
airlied: see if it drops any hints..
airlied: if you have it installed at all removing it is a good idea
thomas_sch: good idea^^
thomas_sch: can't execute LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo cause i'm not logged in on a X session i just use ssh DISPLAY=":0" does not work too
thomas_sch: airlied: http://pastebin.com/mbfddd25
kmacy: airlied: ping
airlied: ?
kmacy: is the atombios parser expected to work yet?
airlied: kmacy: should run fine..
airlied: kmacy: what card?
kmacy: airlied: it crashes for me when running with a FireGL V3600
kmacy: airlied: attached to a Samsung 305T
kmacy: (which is obviously dual-link)
airlied: kmacy: got a log? I've tested with dual-link fine..
kmacy: http://www.fsmware.com/freebsd/atombios/
airlied: kmacy: can you build the driver with debugging enabled? make CFLAGS="-O0 -g"
airlied: bbl..
kmacy: okie
kmacy: you mean without optimization
kmacy: it obviously has symbols
airlied: kmacy: and maybe add some printfs inside atombios_dac_detect
airlied: this time bbl..
kmacy: thanks
piranesi: airlied, did you see yesterday I succeded in setting the mode?
piranesi: :D
airlied: piranesi: yes excellent.. randr static config is a bit trickier to get right..
thomas_sch: airlied: http://pastebin.com/mbfddd25
airlied: kmacy: back for another while..
kmacy: ok
kmacy: I'm using the monitor on my mac, but I'll try switching
kmacy: ok
kmacy: taking a break from testing TCP
kmacy: airlied: what would you like to see from dac_detect?
kmacy: the value of bios_0_scratch and radeon_output->devices?
airlied: kmacy: what we pass into RHDAtomBiosFunc.. so the value of usDeviceID and ucDacType..
airlied: atom_bios_dac_load_detect
kmacy: ok
kmacy: do I need to do anything to cause ErrorF to print something out?
airlied: kmacy: no it should end up i nthe logs..
kipmacy: airlied: usDeviceID=00000001
kipmacy: airlied: ucDacType=0
airlied: kipmacy: sounds fine..
airlied: have you a backtrace without optimisations?
kipmacy: yeah
kipmacy: its dying in AddEnabledDevice
airlied: kipmacy: please post it?
daniels: er, AddEnabledDevice is just FD_SET
kipmacy: #0 0x000000080183ff0c in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7
kipmacy: #1 0x000000080183ed7b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7
kipmacy: #2 0x000000000046121a in ddxGiveUp ()
kipmacy: #3 0x00000000005620f8 in FreeAuditTimer ()
kipmacy: #4 0x0000000000000001 in ?? ()
kipmacy: #5 0x0000000000562747 in FatalError ()
kipmacy: #6 0x000000000047bce9 in xf86SigHandler ()
kipmacy: #7
kipmacy: #8 0x0000000000558f0d in AddEnabledDevice ()
kipmacy: #9 0x000000000045f38d in config_dbus_core_remove_hook ()
kipmacy: #10 0x0000000000430353 in main ()
kipmacy: should I compile Xorg with symbols?
airlied: kipmacy: not here :) pastebina.ca plz.
kipmacy: ok
airlied: kipmacy: wierd thats a whole new error nothing to do with the other one.
kipmacy: yeah
kipmacy: its kind of confusing
airlied: you now have what I would call 2 problems.
kipmacy: lol
kipmacy: oops
kipmacy: that core is old
kipmacy: nm
kipmacy: much better
kipmacy: its back to where was it before
kipmacy: :D
kipmacy: Decoder.c:171
airlied: kipmacy: pastebin thay one.
kipmacy: http://pastebin.ca/807723
daniels: you've probably just smashed the shit out of your memory
daniels: there's no way known AddEnabledDevice can ever segfault during anything resembling normal operation
kipmacy: daniels: like I said, old core
daniels: ah
kipmacy: airlied: any more data I can gather?
kipmacy: in other words I can hook the monitor back up to my mb pro
airlied: kipmacy: you may need to do some printfing inside ParseTable..
airlied: kipmacy: it definitely doesn't look good..
kipmacy: v3600 exercising new code paths? :D
airlied: kipmacy: nope I think someone else had it working.. maytbe BSD :)
airlied: we don't like to do much inside Decoder.c the code is horrid..
kipmacy: the formatting is very very odd
airlied: kipmacy: if you comment out the dac detect does it run properly after that?
kipmacy: atombios_dac_detect?
kipmacy: or load_detect?
kipmacy: did that
kipmacy: lol
kipmacy: http://pastebin.ca/807736
kipmacy: anything having to do with atombios looks like
kipmacy: airlied: still there?
kipmacy: AFAICT V3600 is just AFU
kipmacy: pech gehabt
airlied: kipmacy: sorry .. okay so either a) bios is totally screwed, b) something is getting corrupted..
kipmacy: airlied: yup
kipmacy: what card should I have gotten? :D
airlied: kipmacy: that card should work though.. so I'm unsure why you are having a problem..
airlied: so what is the value of ParserTempData
airlied: oh its local so that should be okay
airlied: ParserTempData.pWorkingTableData then.
kipmacy: p ParserTempData.pWorkingTableData
kipmacy: $1 = (struct _WORKING_TABLE_DATA *) 0x1a0a2c0
kipmacy: same value as it did before IIRC
kipmacy: looks like a structure mismatch
kipmacy: you're reading flags where you're expecting a pointer
airlied: kipmacy: are on 64-bit or something?
kipmacy: yes
airlied: kipmacy: interesting.. maybe I needs to do an x86-64 install..
kipmacy: PLZ K THX
kipmacy: :)
airlied: or you could try a 32-bit install :)
kipmacy: ugh
airlied: 64-bit userspace isn't a major use in any case :)
kipmacy: :-(
airlied: its slower for most things..
kipmacy: that was why I got ATI
airlied: but more registers..
kipmacy: yup
kipmacy: register saving isn't as big a deal as
kipmacy: deeper page tables
kipmacy: poorer cache locality is the big hit I guess
airlied: kipmacy: yes larger reads from memory, cache misses increase..
airlied: kipmacy: I'll see how I go with 64-bit later, I need to download a 64-bit installer..
kipmacy: I have room for 32-bit install on the disk
kipmacy: I won't be able to get to it today
kipmacy: thanks
airlied: kipmacy: yeah I've got a lot of real work todo as well :)
kipmacy: I'll be back
airlied: kipmacy: so it'll be next week for me.
kipmacy: ok